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Vocal Polyp

Post by proudmum » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:07 am

My daughter has a polyp on her vocal chord,has anyone had experience of this? they dont think speech therapy will help so she has been told to steam her throat,as much vocal rest as poss and no caffiene. My problem is we go back in May and if it hasnt gone the consultant wants to remove it :( we are'nt sure what to do! I would like to know if anyone has had this op done and had any probs after.

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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by Dawn » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:23 pm

Oh dear your poor DD. Sorry I can't tell you anything about the condition but isn't it what Connie fisher had?

Hope you get some good answers.

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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by Welsh Mum » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:57 pm

I also thought this was why CF had her op last year. I also know that Micael Ball had something similar. Sorry I can't offer any more help/advice, hope the advice works. My DD has a steamer that I bought her (she has lots of sore throats and her singing teacher recommended it). We got it from Argos, not very expensive, she uses it loads, very easy to use. I can indersatnd why you mioght be worried, hope someone else is more help.
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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by proudmum » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:17 pm

I didnt know you could buy a steamer,we've been doing the bowl and towel job.

Its frustrating as her voice goes when she tries to hit the top notes,usually she doesnt have a natural break but the last 6months have been troublesome :(

Thanks for the words of support :)
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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by shortguy » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:35 pm

Not sure I can help but thinking of you both

Here is an article on CF but seems to be a different complaint

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... rgery.html
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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by Welsh Mum » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:35 pm

Out steamer is similar to this one:

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/p ... FACIAL.htm

MUCH easier than bowl and towel!
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Post by doris » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:40 pm

Wishing your dd a speedy recovery ,proudmum [-o<

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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by nextinline » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:19 pm

Hope all will be well for your dd
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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by proudmum » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:50 pm

Thanks ladies :) x

WM I shall buy that for N,thanks.
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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by Luckymum » Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:34 pm

Seems the best advice is rest and care (not easy for performing arts students!!) #-o #-o #-o

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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by proudmum » Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:15 pm

Im bumping this up as we are going back to the hospital next week and she is running out of time :( I would love to know if anyone has knowledge of someone that has had the surgery and if they suffered any vocal probs after.

My daughter does not relish the idea of surgery but from the research ive read it will be the next thing offered, its a big decison for a singer and we are;nt sure whether to have surgery or give it more time.
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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by Welsh Mum » Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:42 pm

This must be a very difficult decision for you to make. I found this list of famous singers who have had this sort of problem on the internet:
Famous nodule sufferers

Tiffany Hwang, a member from the popular South Korean pop group Girls' Generation developed vocal nodules in late 2008 during promotions for a song. In mid-2009 with promotions for the group's new mini-album, her voice became much huskier and hoarse, causing her to occasionally have to lip-sync during performances. After receiving treatment in a special clinic for singers with vocal nodules, her voice recovered almost fully.
Amanda Palmer of The Dresden Dolls said in January 2008 that she will undergo surgery for nodes in March 2008. She was forced to cancel a mini-tour because of the surgery.
Angela Gossow of Arch Enemy had developed nodules after the first Arch Enemy album she screamed called Wages of Sin. She can still scream, but can no longer do many growls and deep toned screams. Her voice is much clearer and understandable after going to vocal lessons.
Annie Lennox of The Eurythmics had surgery for vocal nodules in 1985 that prevented her from performing at Live Aid.
Davey Havok, lead singer of AFI, suffered from vocal nodes, which forced AFI to cancel several shows on their Spring '04 tour as well as changed the style of his singing from a raspier style to a clearer style.
Roughton Reynolds from Enter Shikari developed nodules and as a result missed several shows on their UK tour.
Luciano Pavarotti developed vocal cord nodules early in his at-the-time mediocre career, leading him to renounce a life of music. The psychological release associated with this decision and soon-after disappearance of the nodules led to an improvement in his sound quality.
Grace Slick from Jefferson Airplane and Jefferson Starship had several operations for vocal nodes during the late sixties and early seventies.
Freddie Mercury pianist and lead singer of Queen. He refused surgery.
Natalie Imbruglia developed nodules during the 90's and had them removed a few years later, this noticeably improved the timbre in her voice.
A young Lucinda Williams developed nodules and later had them removed.
Julie Andrews suffered from vocal cord nodules and lost her singing voice after surgery to remove them.
Robert Plant, singer of band Led Zeppelin received treatment for nodules in 1973 and possibly 1974. This resulted in a drop in range of voice and a harsh timbre on the 1975 album Physical Graffiti.
Bonnie Tyler, in 1977, had to have surgery for their removal. After the surgery was performed, she was ordered to not speak for six weeks. One day while healing, she accidentally screamed and her voice took on a raspy quality.
Whitney Houston developed nodules during her Bodyguard tour in 1993-1994. At the time, she was unable to rest her voice to prevent permanent damage. She also had nodules in 2007 and had them removed. She returned to a singing career, but her voice has developed a noticeable, darker and hoarser tone than before.
Sarah Brightman developed nodules after her Harem world tour in 2004; she had surgery to remove them.
Bette Midler developed nodules in 2006-2007.
Natalie Dessay, a famous operatic lyric-coloratura, underwent surgery in 2001 to remove nodules and polyps on two of her vocal cords, following vocal difficulties after recovering from a cold. Although the quality of her voice now is debatable by some opera critics and fans, Natalie Dessay has made a complete recovery and continues to perform in opera.
Justin Timberlake had surgery to remove vocal nodules in 2005.
Omarion, formerly of boy-band B2K also had surgery to remove nodules in 2005, and as a result, had to cancel a number of live shows in London.
In March 2005, Blue singer Lee Ryan developed a nodule, and as a consequence had to cancel the boy band's farewell tour.
Geri Halliwell of the Spice Girls had nodules removed[1] before the release of her third solo album and later received singing lessons to adjust to her new found vocal range.
Goo Goo Dolls' lead singer Johnny Rzeznik, Everclear lead singer Art Alexakis, and Tony Rice, bluegrass guitarist and singer, all have suffered from the condition.
Steve Augeri of the band Journey was forced to leave the band when his nodules became severe in the 2006 tour.
In October 2006 Jet guitarist and singer Nic Cester was diagnosed.
Bert McCracken, vocalist of The Used, developed a nodule in his vocal cord, and underwent surgery during the summer of 2007. The nodule was successfully removed.
Sonny Moore, vocalist of From First to Last, also had a nodule in his vocal cord. After surgery for its removal, he tore a vocal cord.
Joanna Newsom developed vocal nodules in spring 2009 and she could not speak or sing for 2 months.
Joss Stone had nodules and was told by doctors that she had to rest her voice otherwise permanent damage could be caused.
Tom Keifer, lead singer of the rock band Cinderella, developed nodules as a result of his singing voice, a raspy, affected snarl. He underwent repeated surgeries for the disorder.
Billy Lunn (Morgan) lead singer of The Subways had nodules removed in January 2007.
Korean Singer Gummy has reported that she occasionally suffers from vocal fold nodules.
Brian Joo of Korean boyband Fly to the Sky suffered from vocal fold nodule due to a hectic promotion schedule and an over-exertion of his vocal cords.
Daesung of Korean Hip-Hop group, Big Bang (group), developed vocal fold nodules during training.
Canadian rock artist Matthew Good was diagnosed with a nodule in the late days of the Matthew Good Band.
Singer Lisa Origliasso of the Australian duo The Veronicas suffered from nodules in her throat while touring with Ashlee Simpson in June 2006. She had to cancel the rest of her tour gigs while she went for an operation and recuperated.
Emily Deschanel was forced to give up singing after performing in a musical due to the formation of nodules on her vocal cords.
Mariah Carey, credited with a 5-octave vocal range and known for her extensive use of the whistle register (the highest human vocal register) divulged in a recent magazine interview that she has had vocal nodules since she was a little girl.
Bill Kaulitz, lead singer of Tokio Hotel, underwent surgery to remove a developed cyst in April 2008. Bill had to remain silent for ten days after his surgery, a feat for the chatty singer. As a result, the band had to cancel numerous shows of their European 1000 Hotels '08 tour.
Kim Kyung Ho, a Korean rock singer was diagnosed with vocal nodules in 2001, whilst recording his 6th album. As a result his trademark use of screams and vocal wails have diminished, as well as his vocal tone when attempting higher notes.
Shayne Ward sang through nodules on The X Factor tour before having them removed by a Surgeon in Los Angeles.
Former Village People lead singer Victor Willis had surgery at a San Diego hospital in July 2008 to remove nodules from his vocal cords. He developed hoarseness after several 2007 performances, forcing him to cancel European and Canadian concert dates.
In January 1987, Elton John underwent throat surgery to remove potentially cancerous nodules from his vocal cords while on tour, a necessity he originally claimed was due to an infection, but later claimed was the result of excessive drug abuse.
Syleena Johnson suffered from vocal nodules and had to go through speech therapy.
Minne Riperton also suffered from vocal nodules
Madonna came down with vocal nodules and had to stop her tour.
In April 2008, ex Blue Peter and Radio/TV presenter Richard Bacon had an operation to remove a noncancerous polyp from his vocal cords.
Joni Mitchell suffered with vocal nodules in the 90s.
Broadway legend Patti LuPone suffered with vocal nodules in 1994, and had surgery to remove them.
In January 2008 Miss Saigon star Lea Salonga was instructed to go on complete vocal rest for a while due to pre-nodules and inflammation of her vocal cords.
Kerry Butler, star of Hairspray (musical) and Beauty and the Beast (musical) developed pre-vocal nodules and had to go on complete vocal rest for over a month.
Miley Cyrus, star of Hannah Montana developed vocal nodules.
Klaus Meine of Scorpions suffered from vocal nodules.
M. Shadows of Avenged Sevenfold had to postpone a fall tour due to vocal strain.
Ian Gillan of "Deep Purple" and "Jesus Christ, Superstar", suffered from vocal nodules in the early 1980s.
Nathan Lane developed a vocal nodule/polyp on his left vocal cord that forced him to take time out of his run in the Broadway production of The Producers (musical).
Eliza Carthy cancelled a tour of England in Autumn 2008 because of vocal fold nodules.
Rod Stewart had a nodule removed in June 2000.
Tony Vincent, of We Will Rock You (musical) fame, suffered with vocal problems during his time in London and underwent surgery.
Kerry Ellis, acclaimed West End performer, suffered vocal damage upon opening her run as Elphaba in Wicked (musical) and later developed nodules as a result of simultaneously recording tracks for her album, rehearsing for Chess (musical) and performing in Wicked.
Don't think amy of this will help, but it shows what a common problem this is.
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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by proudmum » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:05 pm

Awww thanks WM, I wish it stated the outcomes. N scared incase surgery does more damage,I understand how she feels but left as it is will cause endless problems :(
We are also having a "discussion" on whether to do it before or after MV audition,I think she should have it done before but she thinks after. Problem is everyone so far has noticed it and I dont think she stands a chance at MV, where singing is the main thing, but she's worried that she'll only have max of 4-6wks to recover :roll:
oh its a nightmare!!!!
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Re: Vocal Polyp

Post by Welsh Mum » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:56 pm

Annie Lennox had surgery in 1985, it didn't harm her career, she is still going strong! It says surgery improved natalie Imbruglia's voice. Sarah Brightman and Natalie Dessay are still singing, as is Justin Timberlake. However, it is also noted that others noticed a difference in their voice, while others didn't have surgery at all. So not helpful really is it???
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Post by songbird » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:38 pm

Great company --- how long is the waiting list for surgery perhaps the decision of pre mountain view audition operation will be taken out of your hands ? see the specialist and your have more information to help her make an informed choice good luck with it all our thoughts are with you as it seems such a shame at this time but once sorted she has the rest of her life to sing x
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