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Student Film

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:37 pm
by WrockDee
Hi everyone!

I've just been asked to do a student film for some first year students.

It's only a two day shoot but is there anything I should do before I film anything or any advice you could give me? :D

Re: Student Film

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:01 am
by In4aPenny
Unless you are lucky, 1st year films tend to be chaoticly run by obviously young students who haven't long left home. You might have a pleasant surprise though and be working with mature or switched on people. Get them to specify how many days you are required (else it runs on and on) and double check you will be receiving the footage and roughly when (can take a while or you may never see it).

These students are tomorrow's industry so its good experience and might be great contacts for the future.

It will be great footage for your showreel - if you ever get it.

Prepare for lots and lots of fag breaks. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Student Film

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:32 am
by riverdancefan
In4apenny !!
wise words

I hope it is good experience and I REALLY hope you get to see a finished product.
we all have to start somewhere I understand that, but I must say I do avoid 1st year student productions..having spent time, money and effort with DS and then never seeing a finished product
(I must admit that has happened with professional companies too - lots of promises, but nothing coming to fruition)

just relax, enjoy the experience, take lots of photos, make new contacts and you cannot go far wrong !! :D

Re: Student Film

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:04 pm
by pg
Some actors/directors may well disagree with some (or all!) of this, but if you are not particularly experienced as a screen actor it may be worth considering:

If you feel that a scene or take has gone badly for you, ask them if you can do it again. Very often, in my experience, inexperienced student film makers don't really know much about acting (or actors) and sometimes don't even watch the acting because they are so concerned with everything else! A professional/experienced director would spot some duff acting and ask you to do it again anyway, if there's time (sometimes there isn't, and they're stuck with a scene with dodgy acting in it - we've all seen them and I've been in some of them :oops: ).

You may find that they don't mind you looking at the footage before they move on to the next shot - it's easy enough to do these days. if you are unsure about how a scene went for you, it's probably worth asking - though obviously it would be very annoying if you asked after every take! A director will often look over the scene /take before they move on to make sure he/she has the coverage they need in any case and they may not mind if you look over their shoulder. If they are relatively inexperienced you may find that they don't look at the acting at all - they just look at all the difficult technical stuff they are learning about! It's certainly the case that many student directors have no idea how to direct actors. If you get a chance to look at it, you may feel very strongly that you could do better, in which case you can ask if you can do it again. If they don't have time, or they are really happy with it, you may have to move on - but it's worth asking. It's more difficult (sometimes totally inappropriate) to do this on a busy professional shoot, definitely don't ask to do this on any kind of TV soap, there really won't be time for it - you can be very unpopular if you hold things up. It can also look a bit insecure, especially if you don't have a big role or have never had any kind of conversation with the director, but on a student production, where you are volunteering and helping them out, you need to get something out of it too, because I don't suppose you are getting paid! Getting the chance to see how you come across before the film is edited can be very helpful.

Don't be afraid to ask questions or voice any major concerns - especially about safety - it's usually possible to do this without hurting anyone's feelings or looking like a prima donna. They are learning and you may be able to help them get a better result, you will almost certainly know more about acting than they do, even if you don't know as much about filming.

Get a written commitment about the footage and get the name and contact details of their tutor before you start. Sadly, getting footage from student films often turns out to be really difficult. Be professional but firm!

Re: Student Film

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:17 pm
by WrockDee
Wow, 3 comments already!

I've spoken to the director and the editor who seem pretty serious for first years! My lecturers are trying to work alongside Film and Production students, saying the experience would be beneficial for both us as actors and the other students!

I've been told that I'm working two days next weekend and they'll pay for my train fare, bring food for us to eat and will even given me £10 for the two days! I was a bit shocked to be told I'd be paid. They're definitely inexperienced as they admitted to me that they had no idea how to do a casting properly, but were really happy to have any thoughts or ideas that could help them out. I've done very little camera work and it's one of the reasons why I'm starting with student films so I can get a basic idea of what happens. It's on my list to ask them about getting the written commitment and details as I told the two students that I wanted the scenes they shoot for a showreel!

I shall let you know what happens and thank you so much for the advice! =D>