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singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 6:14 pm
by quietattheback
My 9 year old had her grade 3 singing exam but completely forgot her 'minors' everything else she said she was confident with, she was honest with the examiner at the very start... is this a foregone conclusion...? :cry:

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 9:31 pm
by mouskouri41
I don't recognise this as part of LCM or ABRSM exam structure-is it Trinity?I'm sure that someone on here may along shortly to help,but I do know that ABRSM has a forum with a voice section,so possibly Trinity has too-maybe try there?Good luck-hope it's good news.

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 9:42 pm
by islandofsodor
Age 9 is incredibly young for Grade 3.

However I too don't know what minors mean.

Trinity do vocalises as part of heir exam, is it one of these? Vaccai us one of the options. Or Rockschool have exercises.

If do then for Trinity it's worth 14 marks & you'd have to forget all the exceed used to get no marks for it.

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:57 am
by quietattheback
Hi, thanks for the replies. It is indeed rock school.. I copied the following from their page

Rockschool Grade Exams for vocals follow a set running order, which is as follows:
Technical exercises
General musicianship questions
Ear tests
3 performance pieces
Unaccompanied piece
General musicianship question

So it will be one of the technical pieces. She absolutly new it but on the day it just went out of her head, such a shame.
I managed to answer my own question though. When i went back to the site for the above I found something i had missed when seaching yesterday which is the following...

The grade awarded to each candidate will depend in practice upon the extent to which the candidate has met the assessment criteria for each section within the qualification. It is possible for a candidate to achieve a pass grading even if one element within the exam remains un-attempted. However, such instances will be relatively rare.

I thouht i would post it should anyone else wonder the same in the future.
I didnt realise 9 was young for grade 3. She was initially assessed by a singing teacher who does abrsm who said she is grade 3 level but the school didnt do exams (?) so we went to a local school who also assessed her at grade 3 but they do rockschool... I at that point didnt know there was a difference.
Thanks again for the replies.. Sorry for rambling :)

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:54 am
by TomS
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Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:59 am
by quietattheback
Just asked DD and she said she was the youngest by far... But they could be doing different grades on the same day? Her singing teacher says she is very advanced vocally.

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:00 am
by mouskouri41
Age 9 is incredibly young for grade 3
I think this obviously depends on the child,but also on the examining board.
In ABRSM the are required to learn 3 songs and 1 unaccompanied folk song
There is also a sight reading element and an aural test

I believe that LCM are required to sing 3 songs(musical theatre syllabus) and discuss their choices
Sight reading is not assessed at this level

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:17 pm
by islandofsodor
Dd is 12 & in year 7 at vocational school. She's about to do Grade 3 ABRSM & Grade 4 LCM

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:00 pm
by TotallycluelessMum
Yes *Islandofsodor* mine were about the same, it means that if you take an exam a year you're finished by the time you're filling your UCAS form :). I think for many children the songs are easy, it's the technical exercises that are the big challenge ( especially the sight singing) and not panicking in the stress of an exam.
The good news for your DD OP is that she obviously sings really well and whatever this result, she's ahead of where she should be, so she should feel good about that, fingers crossed for her, I'd have hoped that if everything else went well they would be kind to her.

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:06 pm
by quietattheback
I am hoping so, more for her confidence really. She said she felt fine with everything else so i am also keeping my fingers crossed. I will post either way when the results come through.. Thanks everyone.

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:53 am
by francescasmum
My dd was 9 (almost 10) when she did her grade 5 with LCM and is now 11 and about to do her grade 6. The hardest thing we have found is finding an appropriate pre 1920s song, music hall songs are quite saucy! I don't know if she needed to know minors etc but does piano too so gets a lot of theory between the two disciplines and I get muddles which goes with which being the most unmusical person I know. I really just leave her to it, just making sure she practises.

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:15 pm
by quietattheback
Just an update, the results are back.... she passed with merit 85% distinction is 90% so not too shabby despite the hiccup... Thanks everyone who posted \:D/

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:34 pm
by TotallycluelessMum
Excellent news =D> =D> =D>
Very well done to her!

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:08 pm
by sophiesocks
Brilliant news \:D/

Re: singing exam forgot her minors... fail?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:29 pm
by sapphire
That's great! Congrats to your DD =D> =D> =D>