pg wrote:I understand that this news will cause concern, but I don't think anyone should panic about it for this year at least - the uncertainty is horrible for everyone though. There are a number of schools that have very high numbers of DaDA funded places and it would be most unlikely that the rug would be pulled completely without giving the schools time to adjust ...
I only hope the present government think as sensibly and rationally as you pg
Yes, what am I talking about? They're politicians for heavens sake! Sensible and rational?!? Ok, perhaps some panic is called for...
that's flippant - and I don't feel flipping flippant. It would be terribly unfair if they did pull the plug without time to adjust. I shall watch it all with interest and whilst holding my breath a little. Fingers crossed and hopeful thoughts to all those that it affects this coming year.
They have gone from Stella Mann no dada there now!
What it means is drama schools standards will slip,as they will be taking people who can pay regardless of what they are like-when push comes to shove they need to exist-at the end of the day where ever you train all end up in same audition room when they are casting.
Let us hope all gets sorted.
Trouble is they dont all end up in the same audition room The opportunities like show cases at the top theatre and dance colleges to get agents at the end of training is much better than at the unis or lesser known colleges which is why all our kids want to go there
"Never look down on anybody else unless you are helping them up"
unfortunately that won't happen for lots of people by the sound of it,so you have to move forward as you can-I know quite a few people who have done very well from uni courses one of them is about to have a very big part in a film,(Lord of the rings)did drama at uniothers cruises,disney,RSC, directing,writing,as long as entertainments industry somewhere dd doesn't care what she does and very very few make it to West End stage-these courses wouldn't run if they were pointless no nobody knows what is round the corner but I do know exactly what you are saying shortguy,sadly don't live in an ideal world.
An agent my dd knows went to a showcase at a well know theatre school and told her it was dreadful and he wouldn't have taken any of them on his books,so you just don't know-musn't give up just because don't get on a fee paying course-what about the girl her name escapes me,who has just won oscar,she was turned down by five drama schools attended open audition and was chosen.
Please don't give up any of you
Its all a shambles and not just theatrical training funding - my eldest dd is in her 3rd year at uni and she was going to do a PGCE and you could get funding for her subject - she had her interview lined up and had spent 2 weeks going to schools and preparing her lesson plans and presentation only to get a phone call on the Friday before the Monday interview to say we are soooo sorry but the government has pulled the funding and cut our places by over 1/2 ... just like that her future changes !!!!!! - the new education guy is stuck in the 1950' hates practical vocational stuff of any nature and comes across as a biggoted bully to me - sorry but there you go ...........
On a brighter note 2nd dd has been going through her auditions this year she did 5 GSA, Mountview, CSSD, Arts Ed and London School of Musical Theatre proud to say she got recalled at all of them - she has a reserve from GSA but got an offer from London School of Musical Theatre which for her age was excellent as most people go there at a post grad type of course / age - she was recalled a 3rd time at Arts Ed and got a no from Mountview and CSSD after the 2nd recalls anyways we looked at all the costs and decided that arts ed would be too expensive to afford over 3 years even with funding cause of the living costs on top so she cancelled that audition - so now she has accepted her LSMT offer she is taking on a career development loan which is a commitment but it still works out cheaper in the long run than the fees she would have had on a 3 year course and she is really happy with her decision - even if GSA comes up with a formal offer she has since found out that the two big name teachers there Peter Barlow and Gerry Tebbutt are leaving this year so I dont think she will be changing her mind now - so now the decision is 100% made I felt was the time to share..... its been a very character building process for her and me she has grown so much from it all and I would just like to say a very very big thank you to some very lovely NAPM mums who have listened to me agonising during the process and keeping our spirtis up with all of their past experiences
If you dont buy a ticket how can you ever expect to win !!
I think LSMT great idea,as year course and you can get out there and search for jobs,she was lucky to get a place there so young as you say often post graduate,something dd may consider later if we can afford it later on.
I feel so sorry for all our DDs and Dss as their futures are so unceratin whatever they decide to do. Eldest Dd has friends who graduates last year with good degrees (geology, forensic science, teaching) and NONE have got "proper" jobs, just anything they can get, which is mostly jobs they could have done with no formal qualifications. This is a very tough time to be young, can't remember any of these stresses when I was thier age. DD in drama school in London knows a lot of 3rd years, very stressful for them with agants etc.
The highway's jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive.
Yes, it does seem so much more stressful for youngsters now. I think so many have been encouraged/herded/press-ganged into expensive HE because "it will improve your job prospects" only to find that they have no job prospects but are saddled with a big debt. The girl who cut my hair last week has a good degree in forensic science... She said she does quite enjoy cutting hair, but it's not what she expected to be doing.
This report makes interesting reading: http://readingroom.lsc.gov.uk/lsc/natio ... Report.pdf
GEORGIEROSE wrote:unfortunately that won't happen for lots of people by the sound of it,so you have to move forward as you can-I know quite a few people who have done very well from uni courses one of them is about to have a very big part in a film,(Lord of the rings)did drama at uniothers cruises,disney,RSC, directing,writing,as long as entertainments industry somewhere dd doesn't care what she does and very very few make it to West End stage-these courses wouldn't run if they were pointless no nobody knows what is round the corner but I do know exactly what you are saying shortguy,sadly don't live in an ideal world.
An agent my dd knows went to a showcase at a well know theatre school and told her it was dreadful and he wouldn't have taken any of them on his books,so you just don't know-musn't give up just because don't get on a fee paying course-what about the girl her name escapes me,who has just won oscar,she was turned down by five drama schools attended open audition and was chosen.
Please don't give up any of you
So agree with you and think we must get away from "theres only one way in" route of thought. Good luck to your DD, I do believe in wheres theres a will theres a way and sheer perserverance can win through. My DS has given up on college route and despite getting uni offers has decided to go it alone. So far he is earning a living and isnt saddled with any debt but we shall see. As this site gets older will be interesting to all keep in touch and compare notes
"Never look down on anybody else unless you are helping them up"
Well done to your son shortguy for strength of mind to move onwards and make a living for himself,it is very difficult.
My nephew has BA and MA in journalism so far has been working as a pianter for a year since graduation-nothing wrong with that but wasn't exactly what he planned-life brings all sorts of senarios and you never know what will happen.
If someone asks my dd what her backup plan is,she simply answers 'what's yours'
dh's college had been told they would get the same amount of DaDas as in previous years. They had gone through an inspection and everything. They do run degree programmes however so it may be that things have to change in that direction.
The Department for Education is currently considering arrangements for the financial support of young people over the age of 16 in full-time education. Once discussions have been concluded the position regarding the provision of Dance and Drama Awards (DaDA) for 2011 will be announced. The timescale for a decision is unknown. In the meantime all DaDA training providers have been instructed not to allocate any Dance and Drama Awards for 2011 nor to make any provisional offers of awards. An announcement will be posted on this website immediately further information becomes available.
Feel very sorry for those that are auditioning this year, and if they try the uni route applications up by a third.
The opportunities like show cases at the top theatre and dance colleges to get agents at the end of training is much better than at the unis or lesser known colleges which is why all our kids want to go there
