I don't think anyone on here was doubting your story about your son, simply saying it was a familiar face, hence raising suspicion. When people mention tragedies they pull on heart strings for some and raise suspicion on others. It's a normal part of life. I'm sure no one meant to offend.
Just recently I had an eBay buyer send me a message asking to send her free items as her 6 year old daughter was dying and she wanted to give her the most amazing last birthday party. Having had a young son pass away myself I was in bits reading her message. Then I started to think that any parent who knew their child was in their final days wouldn't be on eBay asking for low cost freebies, you would find the money no matter what. I contacted other sellers on her eBay feedback to ask what story they had been given and the results varied to child dying, wife dying, the person supposedly dying depended on the item this buyer was trying to get for free. (Adult item/kids toy) I contacted the buyer and told them I was going to the police and they instantly removed their eBay account. Sadly people will say anything at times to benefit in one way or the other.
I see it daily in real life on the trains with people pretending to be deaf/dumb leaving those little cards on your lap hoping you will pop them a few pound. It also happens abroad on sun loungers, same little cards, same sob story.
Although in saying that although your Grand daughter is lovely I haven't voted as I don't think it's fair on other children who would also love to win the competition and it is actually against their rules, it says so in their conditions if there is an unusually high amount of votes. However, I wish her the very best of luck.
Their conditions clearly state...
ONLY ONE VOTE PER HOUSEHOLD PER CHILD WILL BE PERMITTED. If an attempt is made to vote a second time for the same child using any part of the registered email address, home address or IP address the vote will not be permitted.
If it becomes apparent that individuals are attempting to cast multiple votes for the same child, for example by using multiple email addresses or through 'brute force', 'script' attacks, or any other automated attacks, the votes will not be valid. If it is apparent, following reasonable investigation, that an entrant is involved in multiple voting activity they may (at the sole discretion of the Promoter) be disqualified, will lose any entitlement to a prize and will be banned from entering future Ferrero promotions. Captcha technology will also be used to guard against 'brute force' attacks.
Any abuse of the voting system, including vote-rigging or any kind of vote farming, will result in disqualification of the entry and/or votes. Any entries will unusually high votes will be investigated as standard to maintain fairness to all. To contact the Promoter in relation to this issue please contact us at contactus@faceofkinder.com
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VeryproudNana wrote:I agree, whole-heartedly, that voting comps are rubbish and should be banned, but izzie would like to win this one so i will do whatever i can to help make it happen for her.
this is not quite the same as your original post...VeryproudNana wrote:Succeed or fail, it's fun - and that's all that matters.
"I desperately need all your help. My very precious son died in a road accident and since then the only thing that is keeping me going is my quest to make my gorgeous grand-daughter Izzie famous. "
NAPM is indeed a very supportive and friendly place. I hope you will stick around once the competition is over. If your grand-daughter is keen on modelling/photo shoots you will find lots of other parents whose children also take part in this kind of thing. Competitions where strangers are asked to vote get mixed responses depending on the outlook of the individual posters. I tend not to vote - partly because I tend not to vote for people I don't know and partly because I think Kinder are taking people for a bit of a ride - the fact that others think differently is, of course, fine by me!
As doodoos said, it is certainly not unheard of for people to invent tragedies. I understand that you would be sad and shocked at the thought that anyone would do this.
I am very sorry about the death of your son.
I hope your grand-daughter enjoys her modelling work if that is what she enjoys. Please come back and tell us if she wins (or how far she gets) and tell us more about some of the jobs she enjoys and share her experiences, I imagine most people on NAPM would be delighted to hear about them, it's one of the reasons the site exists and is so much appreciated by its members.
For me these two things are not linked. It's the fact that you linked them to garner more votes that makes me uncomfortable.
Your statement that you want Izzie to be recognised and that her modelling is your "purpose in life" makes me deeply uncomfortable.
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I totally agree PG. Children should win/be cast based on their talent, not their parents/grandparents personal circumstances/backgrounds, etc.. Having been in the same situation as the original poster it would never be mentioned in order for her to be cast in something. My personal circumstances and her talent are completely separate. It's why I hate shows such as X Factor with the sob stories. It should be talent/look alone and nothing else.
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This post was never meant to get sympathy votes but just to explain why it means so much to me (and Izzie)
I will just crawl back into my dark hole now, i have tried to delete my post and not bother you any more but i can't work out how.
I will just have to hope that a few people will trawl through the hundreds of entries and spot her and vote because they think she is beautiful and deserves to win and not because i was stupid enough to ask for help.
If only i had 10 family members who could each ask 10 of their friends for a vote for her - but i suppose that would still be seen as to be giving her an unfair advantage
I would like to say a massive thankyou to riverdancefan, bruno2 and caroline A-C for taking the time to vote and not judging me.
xxx
I will just crawl back into my dark hole now, i have tried to delete my post and not bother you any more but i can't work out how.
I will just have to hope that a few people will trawl through the hundreds of entries and spot her and vote because they think she is beautiful and deserves to win and not because i was stupid enough to ask for help.
If only i had 10 family members who could each ask 10 of their friends for a vote for her - but i suppose that would still be seen as to be giving her an unfair advantage
I would like to say a massive thankyou to riverdancefan, bruno2 and caroline A-C for taking the time to vote and not judging me.
xxx
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At the end of the day you are words on a computer screen, wether you are genuine or not everyone will have their own opinions. I don't doubt your circumstances as I would hope no one would be so vile as to make up a death in order to gain votes. Like I've said all along very best of luck to her. Just because I choose not to vote it shouldn't be held against me. I prefer fairness in competitions such as these. If I knew you personally then yes of course I would vote. Perhaps you could ask all her classmates parents to vote for her and perhaps their friends etc...
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Hi allfunnygirl wrote:Is it just me....?
This little girl looks awfully familiar and yet I do not know the family that these posts describe. Also, the quote that accompanies it seems rather odd coming from a Grandmother.....
I do hope that this is not a scam.
I've only just come across this thread. I know this gran and gorgeous issie. They are real and genuine and Issie is as beautiful as she looks in her photos and adores the camera.
I agree it's so difficult to believe all you read these days and a heartfelt plea can come across completely the wrong way.
L I hope she does well in this and I do hope you understand those who are rightly very wary in a world full of scams and dishonest people. Thinking of you.
Sarah x
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I've re-read the topic, and I don't think anyone has said anything out of place. Please don't be upset, but perhaps you're just a little sensitive at the moment.
I suspect some of us are just a little confused. At first, we thought the very sad personal loss had led to your quest, and although personally I'm not sure a quest for fame is very healthy for the child, because very few ever achieve this, and many suffer terrible feelings of inadequacy if it's managed badly (look at the poor kids on the TV talent shows, distraught at rejection).
It got confusing when you describe the competition as rubbish, after asking us to vote. I'm a tad uncomfortable (being perhaps the only male on this forum) of the idea of voting for someone by looking at their face, and then voting for a total stranger - so I don't do these things myself, unless I know somebody and want to do it.
It's perfectly natural for parents and grandparents to vote for their family members, but asking complete strangers by joining a forum does make some of us wonder?
The fact that you wanted to delete the post makes me think that you didn't want to be a regular member of this community, and offer your advice, support or constructive criticism to the other members. You joined for a few votes? At least that is how it appears.
We do understand how you feel - losing family members has happened to many of us, and it's a very unpleasant time in your life, but you should also realise that popping up on a forum and asking us to vote for someone we don't know, for a rather odd reason, is to strangers, a bit er, unusual.
Many forums like this one, do not have delete buttons, because internet etiquette is that deleting posts after others have responded is rather rude. As a result many forums remove the facility to edit or remove posts after a preset time limit.
I'd urge you to read the forum, there are plenty of tips and advice on promoting your children's career. This kind of competition, to be honest is simply a lottery and the chance of success are very limited.
She looks a nice child - tell us what she's good at, and we can possibly suggest a route that could give her some more exposure. The Kinder project won't do it - and to be very honest is a very, very shallow and trivial affair - and of course, horribly manipulated by phantom voting.
Does she sing, dance, act or do something a bit special? So many things that will determine her future.
However, the only students I really hated at the auditions we held were the kids, who when asked the question "Why do you want to do performing arts?" answered with "because I want to be famous!". Almost all of these had no talent whatsoever, and saw 'being famous' as a career. Talent is the key, not merely being cute.
I hope she wins but, it worries me that you seem to be banking on it, reading between the lines, and are going to be very upset if she doesn't get through.
I don't think anyone judged you, but isn't this exactly what your granddaughter is in the competition for? To be judged by strangers, based on something seen on the internet?
Best wishes
Paul
I suspect some of us are just a little confused. At first, we thought the very sad personal loss had led to your quest, and although personally I'm not sure a quest for fame is very healthy for the child, because very few ever achieve this, and many suffer terrible feelings of inadequacy if it's managed badly (look at the poor kids on the TV talent shows, distraught at rejection).
It got confusing when you describe the competition as rubbish, after asking us to vote. I'm a tad uncomfortable (being perhaps the only male on this forum) of the idea of voting for someone by looking at their face, and then voting for a total stranger - so I don't do these things myself, unless I know somebody and want to do it.
It's perfectly natural for parents and grandparents to vote for their family members, but asking complete strangers by joining a forum does make some of us wonder?
The fact that you wanted to delete the post makes me think that you didn't want to be a regular member of this community, and offer your advice, support or constructive criticism to the other members. You joined for a few votes? At least that is how it appears.
We do understand how you feel - losing family members has happened to many of us, and it's a very unpleasant time in your life, but you should also realise that popping up on a forum and asking us to vote for someone we don't know, for a rather odd reason, is to strangers, a bit er, unusual.
Many forums like this one, do not have delete buttons, because internet etiquette is that deleting posts after others have responded is rather rude. As a result many forums remove the facility to edit or remove posts after a preset time limit.
I'd urge you to read the forum, there are plenty of tips and advice on promoting your children's career. This kind of competition, to be honest is simply a lottery and the chance of success are very limited.
She looks a nice child - tell us what she's good at, and we can possibly suggest a route that could give her some more exposure. The Kinder project won't do it - and to be very honest is a very, very shallow and trivial affair - and of course, horribly manipulated by phantom voting.
Does she sing, dance, act or do something a bit special? So many things that will determine her future.
However, the only students I really hated at the auditions we held were the kids, who when asked the question "Why do you want to do performing arts?" answered with "because I want to be famous!". Almost all of these had no talent whatsoever, and saw 'being famous' as a career. Talent is the key, not merely being cute.
I hope she wins but, it worries me that you seem to be banking on it, reading between the lines, and are going to be very upset if she doesn't get through.
I don't think anyone judged you, but isn't this exactly what your granddaughter is in the competition for? To be judged by strangers, based on something seen on the internet?
Best wishes
Paul
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Thanks Sarah and Paul
I am rubbish at putting into words how i really feel about everything. So i am not even going to try as it will only be misunderstood.
Yes she sings, dances and acts. She is above average in everything at school, swims like a fish. She has a lovely nature and i am not worried about her long term future. i know she will succeed in whatever she chooses to do.
I was 23 and 25 when my mum and dad died so my children didnt even know their grandparents. I want to leave lots of happy memories for my grandchildren. being on the kinder bars is something she would like and i will try and help. she didnt make it last time i entered her, she was in the final though and got a massive box of kinder chocs, tshirt, camera, pencil case etc and she was more than happy with that. Her cousin won the tesco face of kinder - NO VOTING INVOLVED - so we know how exciting it is to achieve this. Izzie was so happy that mia won, came to the photoshoot and was not upset in any way. She has probably been to 30 castings she hasnt got and 30 castings she has and it doesnt bother her either way. we get to enjoy a day out together whatever the end result.
I am rubbish at putting into words how i really feel about everything. So i am not even going to try as it will only be misunderstood.
Yes she sings, dances and acts. She is above average in everything at school, swims like a fish. She has a lovely nature and i am not worried about her long term future. i know she will succeed in whatever she chooses to do.
I was 23 and 25 when my mum and dad died so my children didnt even know their grandparents. I want to leave lots of happy memories for my grandchildren. being on the kinder bars is something she would like and i will try and help. she didnt make it last time i entered her, she was in the final though and got a massive box of kinder chocs, tshirt, camera, pencil case etc and she was more than happy with that. Her cousin won the tesco face of kinder - NO VOTING INVOLVED - so we know how exciting it is to achieve this. Izzie was so happy that mia won, came to the photoshoot and was not upset in any way. She has probably been to 30 castings she hasnt got and 30 castings she has and it doesnt bother her either way. we get to enjoy a day out together whatever the end result.
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I hope you will find NAPM a really great place to be after a tricky start.
next time Izzie is in something - or you want to chat about castings etc - do start another thread. I think you will find everyone very friendly
next time Izzie is in something - or you want to chat about castings etc - do start another thread. I think you will find everyone very friendly
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Thankyou pg xxx
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I hope you and Izzie have fun during the on test!
Would vote but im too young! Big congrats to you and I'm sure that your ds is an angel now!
Would vote but im too young! Big congrats to you and I'm sure that your ds is an angel now!
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Just try to enjoy the ride! Good luck to your little Grandaughter, hope her wish comes true! X
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no, I did not mean to offend. I was just offering my opinion. The little girl is familiar and yet I have never heard of the competition before. I was uncomfortable with the quote about the baby bump, especially as I presume it comes from the the person that enters he child which in this case I believe is her grandmother. I am now also surprised at the coincidence of someone who knows the child stumbling upon the post quite by accident.
If the story is true I offer my apologies and condolences.
If the story is true I offer my apologies and condolences.
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Ahh i did wonder what you meant by the 'quote' - you mean on her competition entry - it was written by her mummy not me - i am just the vote collector lol
And it has arrived a baby boy so Izzie is very happy - been a scarey week though as he has been rushed back into hospital twice.
I accept your apology.
I am sure a lot of people i know use NAPM - i haven't told anyone i have come here for help, but now i have found you all i hope i will find lots to help me on various topics. So the fact someone i know has seen this really is a coincidence....... oh god - i see what people mean now about we are just words on a screen - as i am now wondering what exactly you are incinuating by that comment
And it has arrived a baby boy so Izzie is very happy - been a scarey week though as he has been rushed back into hospital twice.
I accept your apology.
I am sure a lot of people i know use NAPM - i haven't told anyone i have come here for help, but now i have found you all i hope i will find lots to help me on various topics. So the fact someone i know has seen this really is a coincidence....... oh god - i see what people mean now about we are just words on a screen - as i am now wondering what exactly you are incinuating by that comment
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funnygirl:
emismum is a regular poster on NAPM. Have a look at how many posts she has contributed to the forum!
If you click on "new posts" when you are logged in, you will be signposted to any you hadn't seen since your last visit. It's not a case of stumbling across it by accident.
emismum is a regular poster on NAPM.
Have a look at how many posts she has contributed to the forum!If you click on "new posts" when you are logged in, you will be signposted to any you hadn't seen since your last visit. It's not a case of stumbling across it by accident.