Auditioning for 2022 entry

[lawn]

Those people whose DCs attended recall at GSA, did they have people go through to an interview? DD says some were asked to sing again but others (including DD) told not to read anything into it about their performance, so not sure if they were cut or not. My thought is that it was a cut but would be interested to hear others experience.

Ps. She said it was a great experience and everyone was so nice.

In (acting) auditions this happens because they have seen enough of the ones that they don't ask to do something again. This is not always negative but they have seen in them what they are looking for, but others they need to double check on something. For this reason I wouldn't read anything into it.

[2good2hurry]

Those people whose DCs attended recall at GSA, did they have people go through to an interview? DD says some were asked to sing again but others (including DD) told not to read anything into it about their performance, so not sure if they were cut or not. My thought is that it was a cut but would be interested to hear others experience.

Ps. She said it was a great experience and everyone was so nice.

In (acting) auditions this happens because they have seen enough of the ones that they don't ask to do something again. This is not always negative but they have seen in them what they are looking for, but others they need to double check on something. For this reason I wouldn't read anything into it.

Ah. Ok, thanks. I just assumed that those they liked would be interviewed. There might still be hope then

[Pinkstargazer12]

My daughter attended GSA last week and they asked around 4 to stay for interviews. They were the same 4 (she thinks) that were asked to sing again. She wasn’t invited to interview and received a rejection a few days later. She also said it was fabulous experience, especially as they sing in front of all the other auditionees - it was really good to see and hear the standard.

[2good2hurry]

My daughter attended GSA last week and they asked around 4 to stay for interviews. They were the same 4 (she thinks) that were asked to sing again. She wasn’t invited to interview and received a rejection a few days later. She also said it was fabulous experience, especially as they sing in front of all the other auditionees - it was really good to see and hear the standard.

Thank you. That’s really helpful in managing expectations. Yes. I agree it was good that they performed in front of each other. Such a great experience.

[amo185]

Regarding support at ArtsEd I can only tell of our experience. DD was not awarded a DADA - no indication given of how many/few were awarded. Of those she knows it is nearly all boys in her year. However some, as at every college, do exploit the system - which is a real bugbear of ours - and secure funding. DD was given a strong indication however that she was eligible and could receive a bursary but in the end bursaries were awarded to those with a shortfall in income caused by the pandemic and awarded in the main to existing second and third year students. So infact there are those with bursaries with very healthy incomes! In the studio there is no difference in talent or work ethic of those with awards and those without. Next year could be totally different. Luckily DD was awarded a scholarship from a local scheme (definitely worth investigating) and has a Saturday dance teaching job to help. DD will certainly be applying for a bursary to support her in her second year. It is a fantastic albeit demanding place to be training with great progression data. Good luck!

[Stayingcalm]

Hi Amo

It’s great news that your DD was awarded a scholarship. Would you mind sharing what route you took for this? I’m happy to be pm’d if that makes things easier. Would really appreciate your thoughts.

[amo185]

Hi Stayingcalm
Look at Turn2Us -we researched and then applied locally. DD submitted evidence plus all her audition tapes and school exam results. Awards I think can be found under different counties. Very varied and different criteria. But worth a try once successful with an audition and in need of financial support. Good luck!

[lotsolaffs]

Not posted here for a while but love reading on everyone else’s success stories. Was a regular poster when my eldest dd was auditioning and she is now in 2nd year at Wilkes. My younger dd is now looking to audition to start in Sept ‘23 but whilst she is as good a dancer, dancing is her least favourite with singing being her passion and acting second. This opens a while new realm of places to audition which has thrown me slightly as she doesn’t want to go to somewhere like Wilkes, Bird, Performers etc that are heavily dance based. She is currently interested in Urdang and Italia Conti which are fine but is also interested in Arts Ed, Mountview etc which scare the heck out of me with their fees! Whilst we can add a little to it each year we have nowhere near the extra £9k or so required on top of the student loans. So my question is (as the only knowledge I have of these places is on here) do they offer any help towards the gap between what they can borrow and the fees? I don’t want her to audition somewhere we have no hope of paying for, we wouldn’t be eligible for a DADA as I think we earn too much, but not enough to have an extra £9k spare. Any advice appreciated.

There are some very generous scholarships at Mountview, ArtsEd and GSA. My DD won one at GSA in her 1st year ( received in 2nd year ) but definitely don't rely on getting one.

We had to nearly pull her out of EDA 6th form due to a big change in personal circumstances - despite literally begging twice for help it wasn't forthcoming - we had to borrow fees from family for her to continue, then Covid struck and on hindsight wish we had done what others did- just not pay final terms fees.
Totally our fault, we didn't look far enough ahead to fund a child living away from home for two years.
Receiving Student Finance has been a blessing and I am so grateful, however we still needed to stump up house deposits in the second year which was a shock too.
Not as much as having to pay 6 months rent in advance as my husband had been made redundant and couldn't be a guarantor.
I guess what I am saying is be prepared financially if you feel it's a stretch now, is it really worth it?
Who knows?

[MygirlsloveMT]

Not posted here for a while but love reading on everyone else’s success stories. Was a regular poster when my eldest dd was auditioning and she is now in 2nd year at Wilkes. My younger dd is now looking to audition to start in Sept ‘23 but whilst she is as good a dancer, dancing is her least favourite with singing being her passion and acting second. This opens a while new realm of places to audition which has thrown me slightly as she doesn’t want to go to somewhere like Wilkes, Bird, Performers etc that are heavily dance based. She is currently interested in Urdang and Italia Conti which are fine but is also interested in Arts Ed, Mountview etc which scare the heck out of me with their fees! Whilst we can add a little to it each year we have nowhere near the extra £9k or so required on top of the student loans. So my question is (as the only knowledge I have of these places is on here) do they offer any help towards the gap between what they can borrow and the fees? I don’t want her to audition somewhere we have no hope of paying for, we wouldn’t be eligible for a DADA as I think we earn too much, but not enough to have an extra £9k spare. Any advice appreciated.

There are some very generous scholarships at Mountview, ArtsEd and GSA. My DD won one at GSA in her 1st year ( received in 2nd year ) but definitely don't rely on getting one.

We had to nearly pull her out of EDA 6th form due to a big change in personal circumstances - despite literally begging twice for help it wasn't forthcoming - we had to borrow fees from family for her to continue, then Covid struck and on hindsight wish we had done what others did- just not pay final terms fees.
Totally our fault, we didn't look far enough ahead to fund a child living away from home for two years.
Receiving Student Finance has been a blessing and I am so grateful, however we still needed to stump up house deposits in the second year which was a shock too.
Not as much as having to pay 6 months rent in advance as my husband had been made redundant and couldn't be a guarantor.
I guess what I am saying is be prepared financially if you feel it's a stretch now, is it really worth it?
Who knows?

This is it, we’re not willing to risk it, as we weren’t with eldest dd, was just hoping there was some magical mystery pot of gold dished out that I wasn’t aware of but looks like she’ll have to give these a miss, we can manage a few thousand top up but not nearly £10k unfortunately, wouldn’t be quite so bad if you could borrow £9250! Thanks for your comments, they’re really appreciated x

[Ditzi]

Not posted here for a while but love reading on everyone else’s success stories. Was a regular poster when my eldest dd was auditioning and she is now in 2nd year at Wilkes. My younger dd is now looking to audition to start in Sept ‘23 but whilst she is as good a dancer, dancing is her least favourite with singing being her passion and acting second. This opens a while new realm of places to audition which has thrown me slightly as she doesn’t want to go to somewhere like Wilkes, Bird, Performers etc that are heavily dance based. She is currently interested in Urdang and Italia Conti which are fine but is also interested in Arts Ed, Mountview etc which scare the heck out of me with their fees! Whilst we can add a little to it each year we have nowhere near the extra £9k or so required on top of the student loans. So my question is (as the only knowledge I have of these places is on here) do they offer any help towards the gap between what they can borrow and the fees? I don’t want her to audition somewhere we have no hope of paying for, we wouldn’t be eligible for a DADA as I think we earn too much, but not enough to have an extra £9k spare. Any advice appreciated.

There are some very generous scholarships at Mountview, ArtsEd and GSA. My DD won one at GSA in her 1st year ( received in 2nd year ) but definitely don't rely on getting one.

We had to nearly pull her out of EDA 6th form due to a big change in personal circumstances - despite literally begging twice for help it wasn't forthcoming - we had to borrow fees from family for her to continue, then Covid struck and on hindsight wish we had done what others did- just not pay final terms fees.
Totally our fault, we didn't look far enough ahead to fund a child living away from home for two years.
Receiving Student Finance has been a blessing and I am so grateful, however we still needed to stump up house deposits in the second year which was a shock too.
Not as much as having to pay 6 months rent in advance as my husband had been made redundant and couldn't be a guarantor.
I guess what I am saying is be prepared financially if you feel it's a stretch now, is it really worth it?
Who knows?

This is it, we’re not willing to risk it, as we weren’t with eldest dd, was just hoping there was some magical mystery pot of gold dished out that I wasn’t aware of but looks like she’ll have to give these a miss, we can manage a few thousand top up but not nearly £10k unfortunately, wouldn’t be quite so bad if you could borrow £9250! Thanks for your comments, they’re really appreciated x

Is that £10k extra a year or over 3 years? And why can’t you borrow the £9250? Sorry about all these questions, dd will be auditioning for next year so I’ve just started looking at cost. I find it all a bit confusing. Thanks

[38ta]

really think it’s so unfair that they can’t get the £9250 that everyone else is given. I can’t understand the logic. It’s a loan at the end of the day and it seems they are being hit both ways with a reduced loan and an increased fee. It’s the those applying that take the hit.

We visited mountview as part of cdmt in 2019 and my ds loved it. Unfortunately the costs will likely rule it out for him as he wouldn’t be entitled to funding but we don’t have that amount of spare money with the current costs of living.

It seems unfair but there might be some reasoning I’m not aware of to justify this?

[islandofsodor]

I’m not sure of the “justification” but the reasoning is that the government decided that students at private institutions are not eligible for the full loan, just a reduced amount, because they are private.

What happens at some places like Bird & GSA is that the students enrol with the university who then franchise the teaching out to the college. It gives them less autonomy on the content but can work well if the partnership is good.

Whereas at Arts Ed etc the students enrol with them and they have complete say over content and delivery plus they get an amount of fees more in line with what a dada funded place might charge which perhaps gives more contact hours or smaller class sizes etc. The validating university validates the degree but the student never becomes part of that university, hence the lower loan amount.

I’m not saying that’s right, but it’s the supposed reason behind it all.

[MygirlsloveMT]

Is that £10k extra a year or over 3 years? And why can’t you borrow the £9250? Sorry about all these questions, dd will be auditioning for next year so I’ve just started looking at cost. I find it all a bit confusing. Thanks


It would be nearly £10k a year! Fees are over £15k per year and you can only borrow £6k on student loan for these private colleges, add on uniform and other extras and you’re realistically looking at nearly £10k extra per year, and that’s before you need to contribute to living costs!

[lawn]

There are some very generous scholarships at Mountview, ArtsEd and GSA. My DD won one at GSA in her 1st year ( received in 2nd year ) but definitely don't rely on getting one.

We had to nearly pull her out of EDA 6th form due to a big change in personal circumstances - despite literally begging twice for help it wasn't forthcoming - we had to borrow fees from family for her to continue, then Covid struck and on hindsight wish we had done what others did- just not pay final terms fees.
Totally our fault, we didn't look far enough ahead to fund a child living away from home for two years.
Receiving Student Finance has been a blessing and I am so grateful, however we still needed to stump up house deposits in the second year which was a shock too.
Not as much as having to pay 6 months rent in advance as my husband had been made redundant and couldn't be a guarantor.
I guess what I am saying is be prepared financially if you feel it's a stretch now, is it really worth it?
Who knows?

This is it, we’re not willing to risk it, as we weren’t with eldest dd, was just hoping there was some magical mystery pot of gold dished out that I wasn’t aware of but looks like she’ll have to give these a miss, we can manage a few thousand top up but not nearly £10k unfortunately, wouldn’t be quite so bad if you could borrow £9250! Thanks for your comments, they’re really appreciated x

Is that £10k extra a year or over 3 years? And why can’t you borrow the £9250? Sorry about all these questions, dd will be auditioning for next year so I’ve just started looking at cost. I find it all a bit confusing. Thanks

Every year for 3 years. Course fees for this year for degree £15, 665 for MT. Slightly cheaper at £15,210 for acting and both slightly cheaper in the final year. As said you can only borrow £6K from student finance towards them.

https://artsed.co.uk/course/undergradua ... l-theatre/


I would agree though unless you have all the fees already saved and ring-fenced, it's too much of a risk to take that your circs won't change during the timespan of training.

[Ditzi]

Is that £10k extra a year or over 3 years? And why can’t you borrow the £9250? Sorry about all these questions, dd will be auditioning for next year so I’ve just started looking at cost. I find it all a bit confusing. Thanks


It would be nearly £10k a year! Fees are over £15k per year and you can only borrow £6k on student loan for these private colleges, add on uniform and other extras and you’re realistically looking at nearly £10k extra per year, and that’s before you need to contribute to living costs!

Thank you, sadly there’s no way we can afford that.